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Reddit@lemmy.worldbyBlaze (he/him)@feddit.org
2 years

Reddit now promotes posts with 0 karma

old.reddit.com English

List of threads detailing the issue

  1. https://archive.ph/lpCqc
  2. https://archive.ph/x1jsX
  3. https://archive.ph/dphnf

Direct links:

  • https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1frcdxs/it_looks_like_reddit_is_currently_trying_new_ways/
  • https://old.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/1fqmwid/has_the_reddit_algorithm_recently_changed/
  • https://old.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/1fmo04b/reddit_is_purposely_pushing_political_posts/
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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
      2 years

      This is kind of a huge turning point.

      It would mean reddit is discarding the biggest thing that makes it different from all the other algo-driven “engagement”-fueled social platforms.

        • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
          2 years

          It would mean reddit is discarding the biggest thing that makes it different from all the other algo-driven “engagement”-fueled social platforms.

          Yup. And it’s a bad trade in its case - because even if it leads to more engagement, it makes it too similar to considerably larger platforms, so there’s no point staying in Reddit instead of, say, Facebook.

            • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
              2 years

              Becoming more like the competition might make sense, if you completely blind yourself to the fact that the customers you do have are the people who don’t like the competition.

              • intensely_human@lemm.ee
                2 years

                When I worked for Lowe’s recently, I had the distinct impression the company was trying to evolve to be more similar to Amazon, including:

                • Less staff in stores
                • Less inventory in stores; logistics to be handled from independent central locations
                • More focus on online sales

                To me the idea of trying to become more similar to a giant like Amazon is foolish.

                It’s like complaining that you never get to step into the ring with Mohammad Ali.

            • Buffalox@lemmy.world
              2 years

              This looks like a way to ruin reddit in the long run, half the relevant content will make it half as attractive to visit.

                • remotelove@lemmy.ca
                  2 years

                  Well, you can’t break something that’s already broken.

                • Anon518@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  2 years

                  Linking directly to reddit makes them show up at the top of search results. You should use archive.org or archive.today links.

                    • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
                      2 years

                      Feel free to provide the links, I’ll update the post

                        • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
                          2 years
                          1. https://archive.ph/lpCqc
                          2. https://archive.ph/x1jsX
                          3. https://archive.ph/dphnf
                            • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
                              2 years

                              Thanks, just updated the post

                                • Anon518@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                  2 years

                                  Well you still have the direct links, so it doesn’t make a difference.

                                  • https://moz.com/learn/seo/domain-authority
                                  • https://moz.com/learn/seo/backlinks

                                  You can use the Wayback machine addon to easily get archived links https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/wayback-machine_new/.

                                  And a bookmarklet for archive.today:

                                  javascript:void(open('https://archive.today/?run=1&url='+encodeURIComponent(document.location)))
                                  
                                    • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
                                      2 years

                                      Well you still have the direct links, so it doesn’t make a difference.

                                      It does, buy giving people choices?

                                      It reminds me of people who added Invidious links back in the day, but over time the individious instances would go down, preventing people from knowing which content was initially linked.

                                      https://moz.com/learn/seo/domain-authority https://moz.com/learn/seo/backlinks

                                      The best way to influence the Domain Authority metric is to improve your site’s overall SEO health, with a particular focus on the quality and quantity of external links pointing to your site.

                                      With the way this seems to works, can’t we just create thousands of links to let’s say Lemmy.world from all the other instances, to boost the LW domain authority? Shouldn’t all the crossposts links be taken into account in this calculation?

                                      And if yes, then do 3 links here really make a difference?

                                        • Anon518@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                          2 years

                                          It reminds me of people who added Invidious links back in the day, but over time the individious instances would go down, preventing people from knowing which content was initially linked.

                                          Yes, the archive.today links have that risk, but not the archive.org ones. Also, you can manually modify archive.today links to show the original link.

                                          With the way this seems to works, can’t we just create thousands of links to let’s say Lemmy.world from all the other instances, to boost the LW domain authority? Shouldn’t all the crossposts links be taken into account in this calculation?

                                          That might be one reason lemmy.world has a relatively high domain authority.

                                          And if yes, then do 3 links here really make a difference?

                                          Your 3 links won’t make a difference. Starting a trend and spreading the word will.

                                            • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
                                              2 years

                                              That might be one reason lemmy.world has a relatively high domain authority.

                                              Can this be improved? Can we post link to LW on every existing Lemmy instance to increase its authority?

                                              In this case, what prevents Reddit from creating their own network of fake instances, with bots users, and posts Reddit links everywhere there to increase their own authority?

                                        • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
                                          2 years

                                          Glad I could help.

                                  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
                                    2 years

                                    Why does it say BLOCKED in front of the link old.reddit.com?
                                    The link works fine here btw.

                                      • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
                                        2 years

                                        I think that Reddit blocked LW from automatically retrieving the info.

                                          • Buffalox@lemmy.world
                                            2 years

                                            Ah yes the API shit probably.
                                            Thanks.

                                        • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                          2 years

                                          I even set a different sorting but it still defaults to a weird sorting. Sort of like best/top

                                          • zante@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                                            2 years

                                            Just new Redditors speculating with anecdotes

                                              • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
                                                2 years

                                                Just new Redditors speculating with anecdotes

                                                That’s inaccurate given that 2/3 of the OPs and a lot of the commenters have really old (8yo+) accounts.

                                                  • zante@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                                                    2 years

                                                    8 years is by no means “really old”!!

                                                      • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
                                                        2 years

                                                        In this context it is - it means that the user saw how Reddit used to be, and is likely informed enough to have a good guess on what’s going on.

                                                        (Some accounts there are 12, 13, even 15yo.)

                                                          • zante@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                                                            2 years

                                                            It’s all speculation and it been going on forever.

                                                            Every single every example is “hey has any anyone else noticed” With some speculation about the algorithm. No one knows anything, but it’s presented here fact.

                                                            Where’s your critical thinking ?

                                                            All I’m asking is for something a bit better than “I swear it’s true bro my cousin works at Nintendo”

                                                              • eskimofry@lemmy.world
                                                                2 years

                                                                You’re argument is that humans can’t discern patterns from noise?

                                                                If you were on reddit even for a brief period of time you can actually click through to reddit and see that the experience has changed.

                                                                People who want extraordinary evidence think that the claim is extraordinary but never question whether their own understanding is limited.

                                                                  • zante@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                                                                    2 years

                                                                    If requiring something more than “Hmmm seems strange” from a handful of Redditors is somehow “extraordinary evidence” to you - then yes, that’s what’s required to give this anecdote - offered to us as fact - a bit of credibility.

                                                                    It’s not a big ask, and I didn’t expect you have such obvious difficulties, but there you go.

                                                                      • eskimofry@lemmy.world
                                                                        2 years

                                                                        You’re deliberately ignoring a video link and talking past people trying to point that out. You don’t want to watch a video on youtube?

                                                                    • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
                                                                      2 years

                                                                      I was focusing mostly on your incorrect claim about account ages. The reliability of the information (speculation vs. solid info) is another can of worms.

                                                                      The reason why you see mostly speculation is because nobody knows how the algo work, except people inside Reddit itself. The most that people can do is to analyse patterns, and come up with a hypothesis explaining it; and while doing so by subjective means is by no means optimal, it is better than nothing.

                                                                      Where’s your critical thinking ?

                                                                      Critical thinking is to neither change the goalposts once people contradict your claim, nor to conflate hypotheses with gullibleness-based argumentation (“I swear it’s true bro”).

                                                                        • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
                                                                          2 years

                                                                          Hello,

                                                                          Hope you are doing well.

                                                                          I wouldn’t worrying too much about this commenter, they seem pretty negative

                                                                            • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
                                                                              2 years

                                                                              No problem - I’ve seen worse. I’ve done worse.

                                                                              (I’m fine, thanks! I hope you’re doing well too.)

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