- 3 months
Oh, you want to plug your own computer into your own TV using a cable you own?
Isn’t there someone you forgot to ask (and pay)?
- 3 months
The mighty DisplayPort: “what is this peasant behaviour I’m too royal(ty-free) to understand?”
- 3 months
If your laptop has USB-C it most likely already has DP out.
Your TV? message the manufacturer. tell your friends to message the manufacturer. Demand DisplayPort on TVs. Be the change you want to see in the world.
- lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish3 months
If your laptop has USB-C it most likely already has DP out.
For some reason I always miss this. I checked in software and at least arandr says I have 4 DP Outs. Presumably 2 per USB-C port? I don’t know how this actually works.
- 3 months
I think past thunderbolt 4 you get 2 displays daisy chained off of one port. I have a thunderbolt 5 port and I run 2 4k monitors off of it
- lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish3 months
Thanks! I’m gonna try and find a USB-to-DP cat’o’tails I can buy for cheap to see what happens.
- 3 months
While DP ports can output HDMI signal, HDMI ports can’t receive DP signal.
Meaning you would buy an adapter that is active, which means it needs to pay HDMI royalties.
Basically, you’d be paying double to the HDMI Forum, to get around their shittiness.
That’s kinda… Counterproductive. Don’t you think?
- cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish3 months
That’s why I said to use a component video adapter. It’s an analog signal that has nothing to do with HDMI.
- 3 months
The HDMI consortium are shitheads who demand royalties, and all Linux PCs are gimped to not have modern HDMI features because of it.
- 3 months
and all Linux PCs are gimped to not have modern HDMI features because of it.
Isn’t the issue with open sourcing their code, and so for example Nvidia closed source drivers support everything?
- 3 months
It’s the year of the linux desktop!
(Unless you enjoy high fidelity gaming)
- 3 months
Yeah, but unfortunately most TVs don’t support DisplayPort. Although that reminds me someone made patches to the Linux kernel to enable 4k@120 Hz through HDMI without color degradation on AMD GPUs. I haven’t heard much about them since they were brought up in media, but if I recall correctly CachyOS included them in their kernel.
- 3 months
Are there many people that care about “high fidelity gaming” and HDMI features Linux can’t support - AND trying to play on a standard TV?
- MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 months
A big reason why Linux is popping off as much as it is lately, is because of HTPCs, so yes
- 3 months
Are you sitting 1 foot from the 56’ screen? No? Then display port is more than fine.
- 3 months
IDK I’ve got two 1440p monitors connected via DP. I can’t say I’ve encountered any fidelity issues.
I have a TV with every input including VGA. It is for gaming only at this point.
- 3 months
That’s one of the things I like about Displayport. It locks in but is generally not too hard to remove (depending on your monitor/PC clearance).
The other is that it doesn’t involve paying ransom to the HDMI consortium…
- 3 months
The port is great.
Device manufacturers putting said port deep in the bowels of Erebus where no mortal man could hope to actuate the locking mechanism is less great.
- 3 months
So what the fuck is wrong with mine? If I sneeze I have to take it out and Nintendo it
- 3 months
Mine’s been pretty stable but I also don’t screw with my cables much once everything is in place
- 3 months
i am but also the cable sucked lemon balls. i got old man sneezeosis
- 3 months
Who screwed in vga carefully every time? Without the screws vga was worse.
You can get HDMI with a lock tab . I hate that too. Nothing worse than trying to reach behind a wall mount to squeeze the lock tab.
- 3 months
I did. Because something in me just won’t let something not be secured properly if a mechanism for it exists.
- 3 months
Sometimes you want it to disconnect instead of pull everything down with it if something gets caught on a wire.
Like a cat
- 3 months
I hear you, I just can’t do it. Though all the slack is zip-tied away, albeit messily.
- SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish3 months
Oh no. Run those cables sloppy free like a 90s cyberpunk rat’s nest.
- SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish3 months
Exactly how god intended
Extra points for the hair dust bunnies on top of the power strip
- wheezy@lemmy.mlEnglish3 months
This is the logic of most ports. It’s more expensive to replace the thing the cable is being plugged into than the cable. So you want the cable to fail from force first and leave the hardware undamaged.
- wheezy@lemmy.mlEnglish3 months
Agreed. What mad man didn’t at least think “I’ll screw them in just a bit so it doesn’t fall out” and then just continue screwing it in all the way because of course you might as well finish.
Only time I didn’t screw it in was when I was using a monitor temporarily or something. Something I knew I’d just unplug later that day.
Did people really just plug in VGA to their computer and then leave in unscrewed for months at a time? That shit would fall out if I bumped into my desk too hard.
- 3 months
Nah, it is all about safety.
If you triple over a stretched HDMI cable it will safely disconnect.
If you triple over a stretched VGA cable… Well, may God save you and your monitor.
- JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish3 months
MY BODY IS A MACHINE THAT TURNS ELECTRICAL SIGNALS INTO COLORED PIXELS. YOU HAVE NO POWER OVER ME, MORTAL. DON’T TREAD ON ME.
- 3 months
If you triple over a stretched HDMI cable it will safely disconnect.
If you triple over a stretched VGA cable… Well, may God save you and your monitor.
Like 3 plugs in the same port? How do you even accomplish that?
- 3 months
You’re right, having problems with the HDMI staying in IS a skill issue.
- atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 months
Fun fact: The connector is called a DE-15, VGA is just the protocol using it in this application.
- scops@reddthat.comEnglish3 months
As someone who worked IT help desk in the mid/late aughts: fuck VGA and DVI. Let them stay dead. If I had a nickel for every time I snagged one in a desk’s rat’s nest on every single USB or power cable while trying to route cables, I could build me a top of the line gaming rig with 2026 prices.
- 3 months
The RJ plugs are my least favourite. Still snags but the plastic bit that snags is feeble enough to break off easily, and then the plug doesn’t have anything holding it in to the port. And those covers usually make it harder to fit it through holes intended for ethernet cables as well as make it harder to unclip it from the port.
- 3 months
Like the Cisco switch that needed to be recalled due to the placement of it’s reset button.- 3 months
What about the slightly larger bonuses that quarter for the executives who had the outside-the-box and paradigm-shifting bright idea to eliminate the V&V department? HUH?
There’s probably a dusty old Ferrari buried in some retired rich guy’s 7th garage, and all the world had to suffer for it was a few fucked up networks here and there and losing the respect of IT people all over the place.
- 3 months
To be fair, VGA had 2 big ass screws on each side to hold the connection in. If you tightened them all the way down, the VGA connector was essentially part of the fucking machine at that point.
- 3 months
I remember wondering as a kid why those plugs needed to be screwed in like that. It seemed ridiculously overengineered.
- 3 months
It was! Back in the day, half the time the screws were tighter in the plug which caused the sockets to come out of the motherboard rather than unscrewing in many times during my desktop days. I fucking hated them!
Could at least straighten a bent pin, though…
- 3 months
Yup. When cheap PC clones came around, everyone had that one Com, LPT, or VGA port with the missing screw terminal. Fortunately you need zero of those for the port to actually work.
- wabasso@lemmy.caEnglish3 months
I don’t know why I kept tightening them. I never found myself in a situation where the connector was falling out if they were left unscrewed.
- 3 months
No hotplugging back then. If you pulled out the plug, gotta reboot. Idk if anything worse could happen, like damage to the hardware.
- 3 months
The primary design goal of VGA was to display video. The primary design goal of HDMI was to prevent the display of video.
- 3 months
I wish DisplayPort would become the standard already. It’s superior in every way.
HDMI is the microUSB of the video world and I wish it would die already in lieu of DP and USB-C/ThunderBolt.
- the_crotch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 months
It’s superior in every way.
Not every way, it doesn’t do audio. That’s really the only downside.
- 3 months
That’s incorrect. DP has had audio (up to 8 channels, 24bit@192kHz) since 1.0, nowadays it supports up to 32 channels and 1536kHz sample rate. Wikipedia has the official standards PDFs linked.
- 3 months
HMDI can also do ethernet, which is very convenient. If you have two devices that support it.
- 3 months
Why not USB C? It can carry a DP signal and (obviously) do all the USB stuff you’d ever need too.
- 3 months
And to monetize the display of video. Licensing of that port’s supporting technology is holding everyone back.
- 3 months
Every time I notice I cannot use my full refresh rate over the HDMI on my 7900xtx in Linux because of licencing issues, I get rationally pissed off.
- TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.comEnglish3 months
HDMI also has a leaky hack
https://hackaday.com/2023/03/07/pulling-data-from-hdmi-rf-leakage/
- atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 months
I mean… you have been able to do things like that for a long time. You used to be able to use cable toners to listen to conversations on analog phone lines for instance.
- 3 months
Hell, toner and probe is still a common diagnostic tool for telecom engineers.
- f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyzEnglish3 months
…but where am I supposed to find another cart in this 50 million dollar hospital?
- bonenode@piefed.socialEnglish3 months
Is it a fair comparison when VGA plugs came with screws pretty much by default? I think I have seen HDMI cables like that too, but if so then it is a much rarer find.
- 3 months
They exist but I’m not sure it’s standardized. Every time I’ve specced one, it was the manufacturer cable “for” that device. Same with USB and DP.
I’ve seen thousands of devices and those are the only ones I’ve seen with screws
- 3 months
I had a mobo one time that just gave up and the stand offs just screwed off with the cable. Shrug
- 3 months
What’s kind of amusing is that all those old ports with the screw-in fasteners were moving around anywhere from 3v to 12v at about 45mA on the high-side. Meanwhile, USB-C can move 240W and has nothing to prevent disconnecting while sending enough power to run a power tool.
- psud@aussie.zoneEnglish3 months
It’s even allowed to be randomly unplugged while delivering maximum power
