It does have Tumblr though. Would be interesting to see them overlaid too. Many of them would be probably be tiny blips

Uhhhh, hexbear is supposedly like 20% trans or something. They have preferred pronouns baked into the software. Tankies on Lemmy vocally love trans people.

You don’t actually have any rational explanation for what it is that is problematic about Nutomic, it’s just something you heard somewhere and are blindly repeating.

I have a very long track record on Lemmy of opposing tankies, so the accusations of being a tankie apologist are easily disproven. At least for those who care enough to actually do their own research, instead of simply parroting whatever gossip happens to float into their ears.

First of all, that has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Nutomic is a tankie. So I’m assuming you concede that you were completely wrong about that.

Second of all, that’s a screenshot of a private message.

What specifically bothers you about what he said there?

The removal of certain comments is intentional and politically motivated and I don’t approve. But then when you see people getting banned from like 20 other communities in the modlog due to that one comment, I think that was sometimes unintentional.

IIRC that was an automated function that wasn’t always intentional. Unfortunately I can’t find the thread where I heard that. I believe it had something to do with a specific version of Lemmy though.

I’ve seen all the screenshots, c/meanwhileongrad is on my server. But many of those incidents have a lot of context that isn’t captured by the screenshots, when you look more closely

On the contrary, I do pay attention to the subtleties. Dessalines and many of the mods on their most active communities are tankies.

But I’ve never seen evidence that Nutomic is a tankie, and many of the smaller moderators and users aren’t tankies either.

In fact, if you ask hexbear and lemmygrad what they think of Nutomic, they’ll probably tell you he’s a liberal, enlightened centrist, or cryptofascist, which all mean roughly the same thing according to their idiosyncratic version of the English language. I.e., he has been pushing back against tankies and hexbears since well before the APIcalypse, back when almost the whole Lemmy userbase was tankie.

Talking about several thousand people as if they all share the exact same political beliefs and behave the exact same way is pretty much the definition of not paying attention to the subtleties.

There are already tools for that, and it will probably get easier with time. In general, people should be encouraged to create multiple accounts on different servers from the beginning, so they already have built in options if they want to leave.

I use different sorting algorithms on my different accounts and also have different subscriptions, so the front page often looks totally different when I sign into my alts. Some of them are even federated with hexbear 🫣. I always find interesting posts that I missed by doing that.

That’s true, but I’m just pointing out that it’s a leftist subreddit recommending lemmy.ml, so it’s not going out to a generalized audience.

And honestly they’re not as tankie as people claim, that title really belongs to hexbear and lemmygrad. The management of lemmy.ml is tankie friendly, but many or even most of the users are not actually tankies.

It’s very complicated because they were the main server for a long time before any of us even joined Lemmy, and all of their public descriptions don’t even mention leftism at all, it’s just about privacy and FOSS. Many users have made accounts there and used it for years without really caring or engaging with the tankie allegations or posts. It’s not as bad as some people make it out to be.

Hexbear on the other hand is actually worse than anyone could ever explain without experiencing it for yourself. So let’s not forget the two servers are not identical.

It’s unfortunate that the active c/datahoarder is on lemmy.ml, because it always derails the conversation into the tankie question. But it’s honestly on brand for there to be multiple c/datahoarder communities on Lemmy. You know, for backup and redundancy purposes 😏

Shout out to @cm0002@lemmy.world for getting some activity going on !datahoarder@lemmy.world.

Aside from other concerns, I find the association with Brexit to be less than ideal. But people should also note that this was posted on r/anarchocommunism so it makes sense they recommended lemmy.ml

Overall it’s fine, we are still at the stage where just getting people to hear about the existence of Lemmy is a big win. They may join and leave, they may just navigate to the page and not join, but now they are aware of it and may eventually decide to join in the future when reddit fucks up again.

No matter what advice you give people, they’re still basically going to do what they want. Many will prefer to join larger servers, and some will always prefer smaller ones.

Honestly I think we should worry way less about this, because Lemmy is FOSS and we have enough solid instances already. People will naturally find their way and if larger instances get power drunk, people will leave. We don’t need to try to orchestrate and fine tune what instances people use. Let them do what they want, and trust that the decentralized and redundant federated structure will function as intended.

It should only come into play if large instances actually can’t keep up with their userbase growth from a technological standpoint. But again that problem solves itself because they can just close sign ups.

Rich man’s Lemmy gold

First of all, I don’t even agree with the premise that Lemmy got worse after the reddit exodus happened. Before that it was like 1-2k monthly users mostly on lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. The reddit migrants built almost all of the biggest and most active servers that exist on lemmy today. I may not have been here beforehand, but I saw the stats and I saw the content that was available when I first arrived, and it was pretty minimal.

Second of all, you are part of the problem, you’re being super negative for no reason right now. The rest of us are excited for more redditors to join Lemmy and you’re acting all elitist when you’re not even part of the original pre-exodus userbase anyway. I just don’t get it, why not just embrace more users, why do you feel the need to act superior to others?

Ya I mean the people who were here before the APIcalypse aren’t exactly the most amiable group either, to say the least.

Also the guy you’re responding to made his account June 15, 2023, he was almost certainly part of the original wave of reddit migrants. Not sure what he could be referring to about the last time people came from reddit, I don’t remember any big waves since the original one.

It’s like those people who move to NYC from a different region of the country and start complaining about gentrification and suburban commuters after living in a highrise for 2 years. Like bitch, you are the gentrification, and those suburbanites are a hell of a lot more familiar with the city than your ass even if they don’t live inside its limits. Sorry if that’s unrelated, I just hate gatekeeping.

Please link this thread too for context and screenshots.

https://lemmy.world/post/24558150

And give old.reddit link, I can’t even fucking use that shitty UI they have now, it’s so bad.

https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1i6rp3o/decentralized_social_media_is_the_only

Thanks

Yeah I guess that’s true, they are defederated from us but technically we aren’t defederated from them. But they still can’t see anything that SJW users post or participate in our communities. And same for lemmy.world, etc.

So you only really see them when they comment on lemmy.ml communities for the most part. There are a lot of lemmy.ml sublemmies to be fair.

Lemm.ee is a really good server but if hexbear and lemmygrad annoy you, then it’s not the right fit for you.

The best way is to make an account on a server that doesn’t federate with them. Sh.itjust.works, lemmy.world, and most other large servers are defederated from hexbear and lemmygrad.ml.

Apparently lemmy.cafe is defederated from those as well as lemmy.ml. Be aware that a good chunk of major communities are hosted in lemmy.ml, so you won’t be able to access those if you’re defederated.

Unfortunately even if you block them, you will still see posts and comments that users from that server make on external communities. It’s only by being fully defederated that you won’t be able to see any of their content at all.

It’ll be huge in the context of Lemmy, despite only representing a small percentage of Reddit’s total userbase.

Yeah I feel you, at least the Orioles team is super stacked rn though (speaking as a Yankees fan 🫠). !yankees@fanaticus.social is equally dead.

My current thought process is that if we can get a decently active generalized baseball community going, it could provide a stepping stone to increasing the activity in the team-specific communities. I’m trying to be active on !mlb@lemmy.ml and !baseball@fanaticus.social as much as possible.

There is already a latent population of sports fans on Lemmy, but it’s sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy that the communities aren’t active so people assume there must be no other fans.

My other thought on this topic is that although I do miss the active fan discussion and game threads, the subreddits for essentially all of my teams were indisputably toxic cesspools. The whining, armchair GMing, scapegoating, and just completely idiotic takes were out of this world. So it’d be nice to have activity, but too much activity can also degrade the quality of discussion to the level of Twitter and just create a very toxic environment where fans are constantly arguing and complaining.