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Reddit@lemmy.worldbyBlaze (he/him)@feddit.org
2 years

Reddit reached the point where AI generated comments are Top Comments

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https://web.archive.org/web/20241009152430/https://old.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/1fzq991/we_reached_the_point_where_ai_generated_comments/

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    We reached the point where AI generated comments are Top Comments on Reddit
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    Posted in r/TheoryOfReddit by u/SoonBlossom • 53 points and 26 comments
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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 years

      AI comments under an AI generated article being inflated by AI account activity. Who even needs end users anymore? Its a perfectly autonomous system.

        • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
          2 years

          Who even needs end users anymore?

          Advertisers do, and if they ever wise up spez’s house of cards will crumble.

            • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2 years

              Advertisers don’t need end users. They just need happy bosses willing to cover their salaries.

              In that sense, the business marketing team and the Reddit “look at our bullshit numbers” team are on the same side of the field.

                • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
                  2 years

                  It’s easy to bullshit engagement, it’s tougher to bullshit click-through rates and sale conversion metrics. It will take time to identify patterns, but inevitably the data will begin to reflect the truth, that’s when advertisers will break and move their money to more successful (organic) platforms.

                  At least this is what happens in a sane world, as for our reality who knows.

                    • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
                      2 years

                      If they haven’t figured it out by now they probably never will. After all fake engagement isn’t a new thing, not by a long shot. They’ll probably just make some excuse about banner blindness for why click-through rates are down, possibly trying to also justify more aggressive ads, and more spending.

                    • Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz
                      2 years

                      Yep. As long as sales and marketing can point to some bullshit KPI metrics as having exceeded all their goals, they act like they are the ones who bring in the profit.

                      Nevermind no one is buying anything and no traffic is going to the website, that is a different profit center’s problem and certainly not the fault of the MBA losers.

                  • Meltrax@lemmy.world
                    2 years

                    Ironically there used to be a subreddit for this.

                    It was intentionally meant to be view-only for humans, and the bots within it were named for and trained on other subreddits. So you have AdviceAnimalsBot, LinuxBot, GamingBot, AskRedditBot, GoneWildBot, etc. They would post on a rotation, emulating what users in their respective subreddits posted. They would all comment on each other’s posts, emulating their respective subreddit’s comments.

                    As an experiment it was actually really cool and fun to read through. It was also very clear that these were bots and you could identify which was which, and nothing was pretending to be a human for karma (there were no votes in the subreddit).

                      • deus@lemmy.world
                        2 years

                        You mean r/SubredditSimulator? I miss that place, it was funny as hell.

                          • Meltrax@lemmy.world
                            2 years

                            Yeah that was the one! I had forgotten the name. It was actually a really cool use of bots and a fun microcosm of how they interact with each other. From the perspective of like, a college AI research project, it was really interesting.

                            Kinda sucks that that is just the entire website now.

                              • Jesusaurus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                2 years

                                Guess Reddit liked the idea too and decided to expand on it, for profits

                            • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
                              2 years

                              I loved that one

                          • NoiseColor@startrek.website
                            2 years

                            If lemmy becomes just a bit more popular, the same thing will happen

                              • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
                                2 years

                                Yep, and even worse. Lemmy has absolutely NO controls for quality and minimal moderation tools or capabilities. It’s in a much worse position than Reddit.

                                If it’s not already happening (And I think it is), it will.

                                  • Ademir@lemmy.eco.br
                                    2 years

                                    What tools are missing to moderate a LLM bot?

                                    I am a mod, I receive a report from an user, check it and ban. All done with current tools we have.

                                      • NewNewAccount@lemmy.world
                                        2 years

                                        This doesn’t scale.

                                          • Ademir@lemmy.eco.br
                                            2 years

                                            This is how we did in reddit too.

                                          • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                            2 years

                                            I receive a report from an user, check it and ban

                                            That’s all manual effort currently. Someone has to report a problematic post, you have to manually look at it, manually decided if it should be removed, and manually remove it. I’m not the biggest fan of automatically removing content, but when someone posts 500 posts all at once that manual effort is a pain.

                                              • Ademir@lemmy.eco.br
                                                2 years

                                                This is how we did in reddit too.

                                                  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
                                                    2 years

                                                    But what if Elon Musk makes 20.000 Lemmy accounts to give away free crypto?

                                          • kikutwo@lemmy.world
                                            2 years

                                            Be great when the bots permaban other bots.

                                            • Mango@lemmy.world
                                              2 years

                                              Dead Internet been here since 2010 at least.

                                              • Someplaceunknown@fedia.io
                                                2 years

                                                Dead internet might be true

                                                  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
                                                    2 years

                                                    Something that nobody mentions when they talk about dead internet theory that I think should be talked about is that the worthless engagement trolls that are real people, really do not and should not count as real people. They’re never going to give you worthwhile responses, they don’t add anything to conversations. Unless they see an opportunity to pick a fight they’re probably not even listening to you.

                                                    Therefore they’re not really any different than an AI run account that’s not going to acknowledge you. And in some ways they are much worse, despite being technically “real people”.

                                                  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zip
                                                    2 years

                                                    That didn’t take long.

                                                    • Donut@leminal.spaceEnglish
                                                      2 years

                                                      Is it? Or is one person claiming that?

                                                        • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
                                                          2 years

                                                          Have a look yourself at the comment

                                                            • deranger@sh.itjust.works
                                                              2 years

                                                              I can’t exactly put my finger on it, but every god damn thing ChatGPT spits out has the same cadence or structure. Something about how it lays out points and wraps it up, and its usage of commas, is so noticeable to me.

                                                                • davidgro@lemmy.world
                                                                  2 years

                                                                  Hmm. As an overuser of commas myself, I better try to tone that down.

                                                                    • deranger@sh.itjust.works
                                                                      2 years

                                                                      I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily overuse of commas, it’s how it consistently uses them the same way in nearly every response. It’s something about the overall structure of what it spits out. I wish a linguist would pop in and break it down for me. It’s a combination of tone, tense, arrangement of the sentences, how the paragraphs are put together - all of it feels very samey to me, unless it’s prompted otherwise.

                                                                      There’s only a few “styles” of sentences it spits out and to me, it seems quite obvious. Humans don’t write that consistently all the time, they’re messier.

                                                                        • davidgro@lemmy.world
                                                                          2 years

                                                                          Ok, good, that makes sense. I was getting worried for a minute.

                                                                      • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                                                        2 years

                                                                        Yep the same thing if you make it roleplay as characters in a conflict. It always tries to find middle ground and end it

                                                                        • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.orgEnglish
                                                                          2 years

                                                                          To me, ChatGPT always sounds like a high school freshman submitting a half-assed English paper.

                                                                          • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                                                            2 years

                                                                            HOWEVER

                                                                            • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                                              2 years

                                                                              Tbf I also form sentences like this when I’m not being a total bitch and dunking on fools.

                                                                            • fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                              2 years

                                                                              If you look closely you can tell it was typed with 6-finger hands

                                                                                • seaQueue@lemmy.world
                                                                                  2 years

                                                                            • GaMEChld@lemmy.world
                                                                              2 years

                                                                              Well that seems better worded than much of reddit.

                                                                              • jasep@lemmy.world
                                                                                2 years

                                                                                I understand this was posted in the Reddit community, but also…

                                                                                Who cares? Let that cesspool die.

                                                                                  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                                                                    2 years

                                                                                    Then why are you here?

                                                                                      • jasep@lemmy.world
                                                                                        2 years

                                                                                        You’re right. The answer: from c/all

                                                                                      • Ademir@lemmy.eco.br
                                                                                        2 years

                                                                                        It is funny to watch.

                                                                                      • DempstersBox@lemmy.world
                                                                                        2 years

                                                                                        Huh.

                                                                                        So in my ‘frequently visited’ list, very recently a link to chatGPT has populated.

                                                                                        I’ve poked at a few of the generative ai things, but only the actual chatgpt once, months ago, and have wondered if there’s enough bullshit from reddit to give it enough dings to make the list.

                                                                                        Apparently so

                                                                                          • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
                                                                                            2 years

                                                                                            I see your account is quite recent, so welcome here!

                                                                                              • DempstersBox@lemmy.world
                                                                                                2 years

                                                                                                Hi! Made an account over on some other lemmy server, and apparently the guy running it was old, had health problems, and (rightly so) stopped giving two shits about an internet forum.

                                                                                                Reddit sucks enough I’ve tried again. It’s going okay. I don’t give enough of a shit to really figure how the whole lemmy/fediverse works, but at least it aint corpo garbage

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