• ValiantDust@feddit.de
    2 years

    But are you gonna return something for this method??? You said you’d return an integer, yet there is no return statement!

    • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
      2 years

      and it had better be an integer! it had better be an integer, motherfucker!!

    • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca
      2 years

      This is why I always write my methods from bottom to top. This way I’ve always got a return statement and I use my variables before they are even declared.

  • kevincox@lemmy.ml
    2 years

    IDE is one thing, Go refuses to compile. Like calm down, I’m going to use it in a second. Just let me test the basics of my new method before I start using this variable.

    Or every time you add or remove a printf it refuses to compile until you remove that unused import. Please just fuck off.

    • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
      2 years

      Yeah I think it’s trauma due to C/C++'s awful warning system, where you need a gazillion warnings for all the flaws in the language but because there are a gazillion of them and some are quite noisy and false positives prone, it’s extremely common to ignore them. Even worse, even the deadly no-brainer ones (e.g. not returning something from a function that says it will) tend to be off by default, which means it is common to release code that triggers some warnings.

      Finally C/C++ doesn’t have a good packaging story so you’ll pretty much always see warnings from third party code in your compilations, leading you to ignore warnings even more.

      Based on that, it’s very easy to see why the Go people said “no warnings!”. An unused variable should definitely be at least a warning so they have no choice but to make it an error.

      I think Rust has proven that it was the wrong decision though. When you have proper packaging support (as Go does), it’s trivial to suppress warnings in third party code, and so people don’t ignore warnings. Also it’s a modern language so you don’t need to warn for the mistakes the language made (like case fall through, octal literals) because hopefully you didn’t make any (or at least as many).

    • treechicken@lemmy.world
      2 years

      VSCode with Go language support: removes unused variable on save “Fixed that compilation bug for ya, boss”

      • kevincox@lemmy.ml
        2 years

        Like actually deletes them from the working copy? Or just removes them in the code sent to the compiler but they still appear in the editor?

  • 🇨🇦 tunetardis@lemmy.caEnglish
    2 years

    Compiler/interpreter: Can’t find variable farfignewton.

    Earlier:

    Me: Declare variables near, far

    IDE: Oh! You mean farfignewton right? I found that in some completely unrelated library you didn’t write. Allow me complete that for you while you’re not paying attention.

      • lud@lemm.ee
        2 years

        I mean, if you want something dumb you can use any text editor.

        • frezik@midwest.social
          2 years

          Yes, compared to the annoyances of “smart” IDEs, I do want something dumb.

          • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
            2 years

            No I’m good with smart IDEs. Anyway don’t people set up Vim as practically an IDE these days anyway? That’s what Vim users always tell me.

            • frezik@midwest.social
              2 years

              The advantage there is that you pick and choose how you turn things on, so you leave out the annoying bits.

        • 🇨🇦 tunetardis@lemmy.caEnglish
          2 years

          One thing most text editors can do is print. I was shocked the other day when I couldn’t print a readme from vscode when someone asked for hard copy.

    • elxeno@lemm.ee
      2 years

      near, far

      The obvious autocomplete is , wherever you are

    • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
      2 years

      thank you for flooding my memory with a bunch of silly 90s car commercials

    • Dojan@lemmy.world
      2 years

      Visual Studio: PROPERTY DOESN’T EXIST ON TYPE!! NOTHING EXISTS ANYMORE!!! REALITY HAS COLLAPSED!

      Me: What? I haven’t even touched that class, let me check.

      Visual Studio: Oops, nevermind, héhé 🙃

      • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
        2 years

        I swear to god this didnt used to be a problem few years ago. However im having that bug constantly now…

    • brisk@aussie.zone
      2 years

      I try my best to make my IDEs follow the principal that I should be able to type without looking at the screen, but apparently IDEs are really invested in return accepting completions to the point it’s often not configurable even when every other key is.

  • dudinax@programming.dev
    2 years

    Me:

    jetbrains: This heredoc goes on FOREVER!

    Me: I’m going to close it…

    jetbrains:

  • kamen@lemmy.world
    2 years

    Imagine lint running on format and your linter removing unused variables: you start typing, hit format by muscle memory before using the variable. Rinse and repeat.

  • labsin@sh.itjust.works
    2 years

    I start writing the implementation and get the “variable not defined” error and then let the ide add the declaration. It’s less keys to press and misspell.

  • Dojan@lemmy.world
    2 years

    I recently started poking with Vue, For the most part when it comes to webapps I’ve mostly worked with React, Blazor, and a touch of Svelte. The linter is so aggressive. I start defining a method and it instantly goes “IT DOESN’T RETURN ANYTHING!!”

    Okay, thanks! I literally just defined the return type!

  • dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world
    2 years

    I’m not a CS major but why exactly does having a variable or parameter that’s not used in C, C# and C++ throw a warning

    • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
      2 years

      It’s probably gonna be optimized out by the compiler. However, linters will mark it for you, since it suggests that you actually wanted to do something with that variable and forgot about it after declaration.

      … Or it can be removed to reduce visual noise once it’s not necessary anymore after refactoring.

    • gens@programming.dev
      2 years

      Lets say you use a variable named abcd in your function. And a variable named abcb in a for loop inside the same function. But because reasons you mistakenly use abcd inside that loop and modify the wrong variable, so that your code sometimes doesnt work properly.

      It’s to prevent mistakes like that.

      A similar thing is to use const when the variable is not modified.

    • Shareni@programming.dev
      2 years

      Because it’s code that literally doesn’t do anything. Some languages won’t even let you compile without special instructions.

  • morrowind@lemmy.ml
    2 years

    Word proccessors have had this figured out for ages, I wonder why it’s so hard to implement this QoL change for code

    • RagingRobot@lemmy.world
      2 years

      How do you mean? You can’t type a word without using it in a word processor. Once the word is typed out it’s been used. Variables need to be declared then used so 2 separate steps.

      • morrowind@lemmy.ml
        2 years

        There’s no direct equivalent but word like won’t bother me about spelling or grammar until I’m done typing that part

      • Richard@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 years

        What do you mean? Variables do not necessarily need to be used, you can allocate memory for some value and initialise it but then simply don’t do anything with it.

        • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
          2 years

          You can but compilers will optimise that away unless you tell it not to.

          • Shareni@programming.dev
            2 years

            Meanwhile go: you will remove it or I won’t compile, unless you know the secret handshake

        • RagingRobot@lemmy.world
          2 years

          Yes you can but the little red squiggles show in your editor to warn you that it’s unused code. That’s what the whole post is about lol