• Ephera@lemmy.ml
    2 years

    Nevermind simply having an OS-level clipboard manager…

      • /home/pineapplelover@lemm.ee
        2 years

        I think windows+v syncs to microsoft servers or something. I remember when I was running chris titus tech’s debloat script it removed that functionality.

        • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
          2 years

          I googled it, there is an option to sync it to your Microsoft account, but I can’t say whether that’s on by default when you turn on clipboard history because I skipped adding a Microsoft account. But if it is, you can turn it off in Settings -> System -> Clipboard.

        • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
          2 years

          An excellent option to have when one of the major use cases for clipboards is as an intermediary for password managers.

          I hope they eventually get sued into the fucking ground.

          • Aux@lemmy.world
            2 years

            Password managers should mark their clipboard data as sensitive and clean it up. Use a proper password manager and there won’t be issues.

      • whats_all_this_then@programming.dev
        2 years

        I’m don’t know why but I’ve never used windows clipboard manager, which is weird because I go out of my way to make sure I have one when I’m on linux

      • riot@lemmy.world
        2 years

        I took a look through my power toys settings, but couldn’t find anything there that had to do with the win+v clipboard history. Google hasn’t been any help either. What is it that I’m overlooking? How does powertoys improve the clipboard history feature?

        • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2 years

          I’m currently not on my windows pc at the moment but it could be that it’s functionality might actually be native to win 11? I don’t realise use it myself I just remember seeing it when originally getting powertoys and thinking that was cool

          • riot@lemmy.world
            2 years

            The Clipboard History is indeed a part of Windows 10. But I was wondering how PowerToys enhanced the functionality of it.

            • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2 years

              I’ve probably completely misremembered it and maybe learned of it the same time i learned about and installed powertoys. My bad.

    • marcos@lemmy.world
      2 years

      Application specific buffers are the first thing I disable on emacs. The OS one isn’t just integrated with every other normal piece of software, it’s also more powerful and easier to use.

      … at least on my Linux, YMMV.

    • pewpew@feddit.it
      2 years

      Windows also has it, but it’s disabled by default for some reason

      • Ephera@lemmy.ml
        2 years

        Ah, that is what I meant with OS-level clipboard manager (in fact, that is precisely what I thought of).

    • whats_all_this_then@programming.dev
      2 years

      Nah that’d be too intuitive

      In all seriousness though, I kinda appreciate moving things around in my editor without losing that one snipet I copied for later

  • JoYo@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2 years

    ive never had to think about clipboard buffers until i used a modal editor.

    now i spend %60 of my time trying to figure out where the copied symbol went.

    • evatronic@lemm.eeEnglish
      2 years

      I don’t have the name handy, but there’s at least one plugin for vim that shows buffer previews in a popup. I’ve got it mapped to leader-sb (for “show buffer”).

    • unhinge@programming.dev
      2 years

      You can see all registers in use with :registers, to paste from a register say "2 in insert mode use key combination 2 or in normal mode "2p. You can check out more in :help registers. Unnamed register or "" is the system clipboard I think. To copy texts in a register you can prepend yank (/delete/cut, etc.) with that register "_ (for black hole register[1]) This is for neovim. Have keybinds for them and there saved you a plugin :D

      1. Text yanked in this register is gone, i.e. it’s not saved in any register. ↩︎

    • whats_all_this_then@programming.dev
      2 years

      So far I haven’t been brave enough for that feature. It’s either “that main place yank goes”, “system clipboard”, or “that place that makes it disappear” for me

    • JoYo@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2 years

      then theyre all ignored by x-clip

      xD

      • Err(()).unwrap()@lemmy.world
        English
        2 years

        Yes. X11 replaced X10’s obsolete cut buffers (which can be modified by any process) with state-of-the-art selections. There are three selections in X11: a primary, a secondary, and a clipboard.

        In modern desktops, the primary selection is overwritten every time you select some text (including in the terminal), which makes its content very ephemeral. You can paste it with the middle mouse button.

        The secondary selection is generally not used, but it’s present in the specification, and you can use xclip -selection secondary to access it. Wayland doesn’t seem to have a secondary selection.

        The clipboard selection is what most people understand to be THE clipboard. You have to write to it explicitly (through a keyboard shortcut, API, or CLI tool), and its content persists until it is overwritten, explicitly cleared, or the X server is killed. While the primary and secondary can only contain text, the clipboard can contain many kinds of data.

        • QuazarOmega@lemy.lolEnglish
          2 years

          In modern desktops, the primary selection is overwritten every time you select some text

          ( °O°)
          You just opened a whole new world for me, it works in Wayland too

        • whats_all_this_then@programming.dev
          2 years

          Okay I had no.idea. So on Plasma, I’m guessing when I copy anything, it’s writing it both the primary selection, and the clipboard selection and that’s how it stays in the clipboard manager thingy?

          • Err(()).unwrap()@lemmy.world
            English
            2 years

            Not exactly. When you select a text and copy it, the two selections will end up containing the same text, but you can write to either selection without affecing the other by using an API, e.g. a website’s “copy to clipboard” button, or xclip/wl-copy.

            Clipboard managers with a history feature are an altogether different layer on top of the standard selections. Plasma’s clipboard manager only cares about the clipboard selection, and even then, there are exceptions (e.g. copying a password for KeepassXC doesn’t save it in the history).

          • Štěpán@lemmy.cafeEnglish
            2 years

            Plasma has a setting to synchronize selection and clipboard or something like that.

    • whats_all_this_then@programming.dev
      2 years

      I’m an idiot and I think I confused the two haha

      My thought process based on when I setup my config: “yank copies to my main ‘buffer’, yank copies to system clipboard through that special ‘buffer’, and delete deletes without replacing what’s in my main ‘buffer’. I have multiple clipboards!”

      Completely forgot they’re called registers and that buffers are just “where text is” (at least as far as I understand it)

    • konkonjoja@lemmy.world
      2 years

      I kind of assumed that his comment was independent of the meme he posted and served more to underline a perceived power that vim has over other editors. In this case a power OP doesn’t even understand/use himself.

  • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works
    2 years

    Y’all haven’t heard of Windows clipboard history? Windows + V will change your life, I tell ya!

      • capital@lemmy.world
        2 years

        You use it once, it asks if you want to enable, and you click literally one button.

      • suy@programming.dev
        2 years

        Meanwhile, this was a feature on KDE-land since Klipper, which goes back (as far as I know and if I remember well) to KDE 3 or sooner.

        • dariusj18@lemmy.world
          2 years

          There have been third party clipboard managers forever in windows, which is kind of funny because that is almost more like the unix philosophy than expecting the UI system to handle it all.

          • suy@programming.dev
            2 years

            Klipper was entirely a different program, process, etc. that was using the system tray. Nowadays it seems to be a plasmoid in the system tray. How can that be less of a UNIX philosophy than the Windows alternative? Because it’s developed by the same community that makes the shell? That doesn’t make sense to me.

            • dariusj18@lemmy.world
              2 years

              Then it’s not really an apt comparison as the two are comparable. I had assumed based on context we were talking about our of the box functionality from KDE, but if it’s not, then KDE and Windows had equivalent lack of clipboard history without extra tools installed.

      • MHanak@lemmy.world
        2 years

        To be fair it may be a security concern if someone is copy pasting passwords

        • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works
          2 years

          Keeping their admin password in the history so they don’t have to alt+tab to their Secret Server webpage? W-who would do such a thing?!

        • Mbourgon everywhere@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
          2 years

          Yeah, it floors me that it doesn’t look see a high-entropy 8+ character strings and not keep it.

    • Psaldorn@lemmy.world
      2 years

      You just do " (listen for next character as register name)

      Then, say q,w,e etc, then yy to yank as normal.

      So "wyy

      To retrieve it you use "wp

      To add to it "Wyy

      To view them :reg

      Remember you can make "w anything, like "x or "p

      And each time you yank it gets pushed into the default register history "0 "1 "2 etc

    • barsquid@lemmy.world
      2 years

      I only know how to use them with q. I hope that’s a register, otherwise I will look foolish.

      • suy@programming.dev
        2 years

        They are. Registers are just “named boxes” where you can store some text and/or keystrokes. When yanking and pasting, the unnamed register is used if you don’t specify a name (you can still see or edit it explicitly). For recording a macro there is no default register, though. You need to give it a name.

    • JoYo@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2 years

      they have no use for copy buffers, they are still configuring emacs.

    • whats_all_this_then@programming.dev
      2 years

      Obligatory boo and/or hiss

      I’ve also been meaning to give emacs a try but haven’t found the time or energy to figure out how to exit vim

    • TheOakTree@beehaw.org
      2 years

      I had to learn emacs for my engineering computation class, up to the point that we were required to present our code in emacs if we had questions to ask during office hours.

      I got quite used to it by the end of that course.

    • sping@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      2 years

      I’m just an emacs … enjoyer (…?) and I just don’t understand the post. I’m pretty sure buffers here refer to something different from emacs buffers as they’re completely unrelated to clipboards. Then from a quick scan of the plug-in mentioned it seems to mimic the clipboard ring emacs has had for many decades (always?).

      Basically I have no idea what’s going on here.

    • Hexarei@programming.dev
      2 years

      What would an operating system need yank registers for? Maybe if you get a good text editor to go with it, like Evil Mode 😉

  • puppy@lemmy.world
    2 years

    Buffers are great. Comes very handy when creating macros in vim.

    • unhinge@programming.dev
      2 years

      I think you mean registers not buffers. buffers are file(s) loaded in memory while registers contain text yanked/deleted/last command/last search, etc.

      • puppy@lemmy.world
        2 years

        What do you mean by regular target? I am either yanking from the OS buffer or yanking things from 2 different buffers. Or I have 2 macros where they yank from different buffers.

    • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
      2 years

      What’s annoying about them is that there isn’t a simple way to clear a register which means you have to use both “r and “R in macros.

  • DavidP@midwest.social
    2 years

    Give CopyQ a try. Open source, cross platform clipboard manager with tons of features.

    One example option is being able to only ever paste plain text. It also has lots of programming hooks, I have a few for doing things like converting a line-feed delimited list into one delimited by commas and quoting the values.

  • hakunawazo@lemmy.world
    2 years

    I like vim and use it almost every day, but sometimes I miss Strg+D and Alt+F3 from Sublime (multi edit). Block select + c isn’t as useful as this.

    • owsei@programming.dev
      2 years

      the vim-visual-multi plugin tries to do this. It takes some time to get the hang of it, but, even if using only the simplest features, it’s way better than not having the option.

    • Victor@lemmy.world
      2 years

      Give the Kakoune editor a try for native multi cursor editing. Or better yet, if you are a developer, the Helix editor.

      I’m a web developer and transitioned quite seamlessly to the Helix editor from Visual Studio Code without much hassle.

      The Helix editor is growing and gaining new functionality all the time.