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5 daysYeah, was gonna say this does not feel very Reddit specific. Just a nobody power tripping.
- 5 days
I just had the opposite problem on Lemmy. I told a mod they were wrong so they promoted me to mod and said “you do it” lol.
Use to be agasint the rules to ban cross subs for any and all reasons. Even if the subs where releated. Bans HAD to stay on the singular sub they where issued and the admins actually enforced it a lot of the time. Was a pita to report but you could get people reamed for doing it.
Somewhere around 2022-2023ish they removed the rule and things went to absolute shit.
- 6 days
lol, why would they remove that rule? The only reason I can think to block someone across subs is to be petty.
- 6 days
Not a joke, that person tried to take over a Colorado sub from my wife. We both saw exactly what he was doing and refused.
- 5 days
Wow… Badmouthing this person I’ve never met for things they actually did? I’m starting 15 instances just so I can ban you from all of them. Would you mind giving me your wife’s account so I can ban her too? Or making one if she doesn’t already have one? Appreciate it, and fuck you ♥️
I was banned from a fishing sub. Someone posted some photos of all the trash people leave at their local lake. I commented that people that do that should have their license permanently suspended. I said that they do not respect nature. I also suggested that people should bring a garbage bag and to pick up any litter they see. Banned for “toxicity”
I messaged OP and they were also banned for toxicity and the post was removed.
Messaged the mods asking how my comment was toxic. They claimed I was shaming people. I said, yes, they should be ashamed. Leaving trash is disrespectful and shameful. They said, exactly, that type of rhetoric is not allowed. I then asked them if they leave trash at the lakes were they fish. Site wide permanent account ban for harassment. I filed an appeal and it was denied.
Reddit has become a shadow of it’s former self.
That’s how I found the fediverse.
- 4 days
You were talking about toxicity of the city. What do you own the world? How do you own disorder?
- NaoPb@eviltoast.orgEnglish6 days
I’m not familiar with things like this happening on Lemmy of yet, but I imagine we have this kind of assholes over here as well.
They do. There’s a power-tripping mod for most of the big trans communities that loves to ban people for silly ideological reasons.
Look at this ridiculous shit. What did I do to deserve this? Did I go onto a trans community and start throwing around slurs? No! I would never do that. I’m trans myself. I’m active and help run actual trans support groups in the real world. No, I got mass banned for “gatekeeping” for completely innocuous posts like this:
Or another one here:
The person that moderates these communities is completely out of touch. If any discussion organically arises about the nature of pronouns or the bounds of who counts as trans arise, this out of control mod mass bans anyone that disagrees with her ideology.
Note, I didn’t go around harassing people who were using neo-pronouns. (Pronouns other than she/he/they.) It was simply an open discussion that organically developed. I personally find some neo-pronouns pretty ridiculous. Often they don’t even meet the definition of a pronoun. But I wasn’t forcing that belief on anyone or shoe-horning it in random discussions. I wasn’t even addressing anyone who use them. But I went against the party line, so it was time for a purge. These comments had very high upvote/downvote ratios, with greater than 90% of people upvoting rather than downvoting. So her views are clearly extreme even within the Lemmy trans community.
And worst, this power-tripping woman banned me from a bunch of other communities, all justified by the same childish “gatekeeping” bullshit. What’s worse is that it’s so sudden. Like, it’s not like they have a list of topics that are banned from discussion. The mods will allow discussions of these topics and then ban people who give answers they don’t like. If your answer to “what does it mean to be trans” is anything short of “it’s completely meaningless and has literally no real definition anymore,” then you’ll be banned for “gatekeeping.”
- Wren@lemmy.todayEnglish5 days
As much as I think some people abuse neopronouns, that sounds like gatekeeping to me. Someone’s identity shouldn’t depend on a larger democratic agreement.
I know a kid, a friend of my neice, who identifies as bunny/bun. Bun’s friends, family and teachers respect Bunny’s pronouns. As far as I know, Bun is just trying to make sense of bunself and the world, and if this helps, it’s no problem for me. In fact, we all socially agreed to do it.
That’s not a pronoun though, that’s a name. No one can know what social role this person is aiming for or how they want to be treated, as rabbits do not exist as free people in human society.
“I identify as a rabbit, treat me like a rabbit.”
“What, do you want me to lock you in a cage and raise you as a pet or source of meat and fur?”
If a child wants to play make believe, and the adults around them want to humor them, that’s fine. But we’re talking about adults in the real world here.
Again, the only way anyone knows how to treat this person is by learning their very specific “pronoun.” And if a word cannot form as a useful shorthand, it by definition isn’t a pronoun. This person doesn’t have “bun” as their pronoun. That’s just their nickname.
And what’s really odd in these conversations is that this has fuck all to do with trans people. Going by a quirky nickname you just made up doesn’t make you trans or anything other than a person with a quirky nickname.
If you have to explain it, it’s not a pronoun. If it has nothing to do with gender, it’s certainly not a pronoun. And gender isn’t just vibes. It has to have some actual relation to human sexuality and gender roles. Do you think your gender is a cat? I’m sorry, but you’re real gender is apparently clown. The purpose of pronouns is traditionally to indicate male and female. And pronouns should stick to that axis, though nonbinary folks fit neatly into that.
To me, a pronoun is something that:
- Is a useful and practical shorthand. (A pronoun is not a nickname.)
- Maps to a real gender that has some relationship to male, female, man, woman. (Could be various forms of nonbinary that say you identify between male and female, as neither male nor female, etc. But it has to actually have some connection to male/female.)
I just fundamentally reject the idea that the definitions of “gender” and “pronouns” are so meaningless that you’re basically using the word “gender” interchangeably with the word “vibe.” We have so many words to describe “bunself” without muddying the word pronoun. You could just say some has a rabbit-like personality or character. There’s no need for cis people to appropriate trans terminology for things that have nothing to do with trans issues or the gender spectrum.
- Wren@lemmy.todayEnglish5 days
Bunny doesn’t identify as a rabbit. Bun is non-binary and the pronouns are bun/bunny. Not a name. We use it like they/them and ze/zem. And not a child, a teenager.
Super weird arguing specific language rules in english, of all things. Multiple languages recognize more than three gendered classes. Most importantly, language changes to fit our needs, no one should change how they express themselves or identify to fit a language model.
Bunny doesn’t identify as a rabbit. Bun is non-binary and the pronouns are bun/bunny. Not a name. We use it like they/them and ze/zem. And not a child, a teenager
This is nonsense. And, as I said, a child.
Y’all got issues beyond being trans. And whatever it is, it has nothing to do with trans people or our struggles. I leave you to your demons.
- Wren@lemmy.todayEnglish5 days
And you clearly have isues with gatekeeping what pronouns someone is allowed to use, according to your arbitrary rules. It has everything to do with trans people and our struggles when people dictate how others are allowed to identify.
Is denying that nicknames are pronouns really gatekeeping, is it not more of an argument of semantics? They said you can use whatever nicknames you want, but that does not make them pronouns by definition. That is not a direct argument against someone’s identity, it is an argument about what words mean.
Nobody owns the English language, it is again a tool of communication, a social construct that is defined by the rules people agree to use. The argument made is that English pronouns (or gender for that matter) are not an expression of personality by the very rules that agree how to define what the word “pronoun” means. Not that people cannot call themselves anything they want.
You can disagree with the argument (the rules of languages are everchanging after all), but saying it means an intent to prevent people from using words to describe themselves is unrelated to the actual point made.
