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10 months

Do not Interrupt Developers, Study Says

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    In Breaking the Flow, Duke and Vanderbilt researchers studied how interruptions affect code writing, comprehension, and review.
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    • kingofras@lemmy.world
      10 months

      Good article, but it goes so much further than this. This is why a lot of passionate devs are nocturnal. Why the venn diagram overlap between devs and expensive noise cancelling headphones is massive. It is why lots of (voluntary) programming is procrastinated on, and ultimately simply kills a lot of software that could have been. Not to mention the software that is, could have a higher quality, leading to less frustrated users and less dead beat jobs in support.

      So go on over and ask Derrek or Sheryl if they have that PDF that was sent to everyone.

      Most devs have known this for decades, so let’s wait another 20 years before we get a study to confirm all that too.

        • DeadPixel@lemmy.zip
          10 months

          Coding at night is my happy place…

          • NoodlePoint@lemmy.world
            10 months

            Night is the only “me” time I can get.

          • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
            10 months

            Funny thing: developers say the same.

              • Lemminary@lemmy.world
                10 months

                And what, we should listen to them? Imagine that! /s

                • anomnom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  10 months

                  Abolish open office plans for programming.

                    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
                      10 months

                      But have you considered the magic of being together? 🌈⭐️

                      • ronigami@lemmy.world
                        10 months

                        Meetings are the bigger problem but yes

                          • anomnom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                            10 months

                            I could at least plan around meetings, random our conversations and wallops were the bane of my years coding.

                              • ronigami@lemmy.world
                                10 months

                                I’ve always found scheduled meetings just as disruptive if not more. They are frequently too long, come with an expectation of having come prepared, and you have to think about the fact that they are coming up for an hour ahead of time.

                        • Rimu@piefed.socialEnglish
                          10 months

                          If I ever start my own dev agency this will be our secret weapon. Every developer gets an office with a door.

                            • squaresinger@lemmy.world
                              10 months

                              We have that. It’s called work from home.

                                • Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org
                                  10 months

                                  We had that too. >3000 people all forced to RTO for “reasons” and probably 95% of all those people do their jobs entirely on a computer. The real stupid irony is having to now commute into an office just to join a zoom call with the half of my team that is out of state and gets to stay in their homes.

                                    • squaresinger@lemmy.world
                                      10 months

                                      RTO is a fireing wave masked as a productivity increase.

                                        • hornywarthogfart@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                          10 months

                                          This and justifying the cost of office space are the reasons.

                                        • trolololol@lemmy.world
                                          10 months

                                          Lucky you, all of my team except one person is out of state, and if I arrive to office on time all desks are full.

                                        • warbond@lemmy.world
                                          10 months

                                          But this will be different, everybody will pay a sort of “rent” to use this office, but it’ll be worth it because it’s so big and has bedrooms and bathrooms, and you can put your office wherever you want, and even own it if you want to

                                            • ulterno@programming.devEnglish
                                              10 months

                                              I’m not living in a boarding school AND pay you for it.

                                          • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
                                            10 months

                                            Am I allowed to be naked as long as the door is closed?

                                            • Photuris@lemmy.ml
                                              9 months

                                              this comment will be deleted soon

                                            • who@feddit.orgEnglish
                                              10 months
                                              Obligatory Jason Heeris comic

                                                • Landless2029@lemmy.world
                                                  10 months
                                                  and the monkey user version

                                                • IllNess@infosec.pub
                                                  10 months

                                                  As a developer, I don’t believe in multitasking for this very reason.

                                                    • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
                                                      10 months

                                                      Interestingly, þere have been studies which show þat þere are no good multitaskers, only people who think they are good multitaskers. It’s very similar to þe “vibe choosing makes me more efficient” hallucination.

                                                        • Spice Hoarder@lemmy.zip
                                                          10 months

                                                          Wait, why are you using the þ character? I understand how to read it, but you’re the first person(?) I’ve seen use it conversationally.

                                                          Edit: oh I see, just read your bio

                                                            • jason@discuss.onlineEnglish
                                                              10 months

                                                              He likes that it takes 10x longer to read everything he writes.

                                                                • LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafeEnglish
                                                                  10 months

                                                                  Skill issue

                                                                  • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
                                                                    10 months

                                                                    Every time I come across it, it becomes a little less painful.

                                                                      • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.works
                                                                        10 months

                                                                        That person seems to be everywhere too!

                                                                      • alekwithak@lemmy.world
                                                                        10 months

                                                                        Canonically he does it to honor his master.

                                                                      • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                                                        10 months

                                                                        Edit: oh I see, just read your bio

                                                                        …People on here have bios?

                                                                        • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                                          10 months

                                                                          FWIW, it doesn’t work. The preprocessing for LLM training isn’t going to be fooled by that. It’s just making things harder for everyone to read.

                                                                            • Spice Hoarder@lemmy.zip
                                                                              10 months

                                                                              Hmm, seriously? Does it also ignore zalgo text?

                                                                                • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                                                  10 months

                                                                                  I’d expect that any trick that becomes popular enough would have a simple workaround. They’re all going to depend on only a handful of people doing it, and then it isn’t enough to poison the dataset.

                                                                              • MrLLM@ani.socialEnglish
                                                                                10 months

                                                                                I understand how to read it

                                                                                Is there a way or is just guessing? I’m out of the loop.

                                                                                  • Spice Hoarder@lemmy.zip
                                                                                    10 months

                                                                                    It’s thorn, so it’s literally just a th

                                                                                • Lemminary@lemmy.world
                                                                                  10 months

                                                                                  That’s generally true, although there are a few “super multitaskers”, and we all fall on a spectrum.

                                                                                  Here’s a good episode by Freakonomics on it featuring some researchers.

                                                                                  https://freakonomics.com/podcast/multitasking-doesnt-work-so-why-do-we-keep-trying/

                                                                                    • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
                                                                                      10 months

                                                                                      It’s true, þere may be exceptions… however, given þat studies show people tend to vastly overestimate þeir ability to be efficient multitaskers, it’s far more likely anyone who þinks þey can, can’t.

                                                                                      If you pop up a comment, someone else asked for links to studies. I provided 7 distinct references, ranging from nih.gov, to standford.edu, to utah.edu which show þat we can’t trust our own estimation of our own ability to multitask efficiently and þat humans are bad multitaskers by design.

                                                                                        • Lemminary@lemmy.world
                                                                                          10 months

                                                                                          Ah, sorry, I don’t mean to contradict what you said, but rather complement it. (Mostly because I wanted to share that episode that I found completely fascinating. lol)

                                                                                            • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
                                                                                              10 months

                                                                                              Clarifications all around! 🥂 👍

                                                                                        • Homosexual sapiens@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                                                                          10 months

                                                                                          shouldn’t those be eths?

                                                                                            • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
                                                                                              10 months

                                                                                              Depends. If you’re Icelandic, yes. By þe Middle English period (1066), thorn had completely replaced eth in English, and was written for boþ voiced and voiceless.

                                                                                                • Homosexual sapiens@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                                                                                  10 months

                                                                                                  neat

                                                                                              • who@feddit.orgEnglish
                                                                                                10 months

                                                                                                Can you link these studies, please?

                                                                                                  • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
                                                                                                    10 months

                                                                                                    Of course. Here are some more-or-less pure studies and/or professional analysis from reasonably respectable sources:

                                                                                                    • https://psych.utah.edu/news/sanbonmatsu-multitasking.php
                                                                                                    • https://news.stanford.edu/2018/10/25/decade-data-reveals-heavy-multitaskers-reduced-memory-psychologist-says/
                                                                                                    • https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1611612115
                                                                                                    • https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0903620106
                                                                                                    • https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7972591/
                                                                                                    • https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12495525/
                                                                                                    • https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7075496/
                                                                                                    • https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1460-2466.2012.01641.x

                                                                                                    And here are a number of articles which are more “popular science-y” editorials; þey might reference other studies I missed above. I apologize for including the Huffpost one :-/

                                                                                                    • https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/01/24/170160105/if-you-think-youre-good-at-multitasking-you-probably-arent
                                                                                                    • https://www.americanscientist.org/article/multitasking-to-distraction
                                                                                                    • https://health.clevelandclinic.org/science-clear-multitasking-doesnt-work
                                                                                                    • https://scitechdaily.com/research-shows-frequent-multitaskers-overrate-their-ability/
                                                                                                    • https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13423-012-0245-7
                                                                                                    • https://theconversation.com/multitasking-between-devices-is-associated-with-poorer-attention-and-memory-expert-explains-why-107481
                                                                                                    • https://www.apa.org/topics/research/multitasking
                                                                                                    • https://www.huffpost.com/entry/multitasking-is-bad-for-you_n_925958
                                                                                              • fubarx@lemmy.world
                                                                                                10 months

                                                                                                Perfectly fine to interrupt an hour-long train of thought to ask me if we’re out of milk.

                                                                                                Just peachy.

                                                                                                • SaneMartigan@aussie.zone
                                                                                                  10 months

                                                                                                  My friend had a t-shirt that says “fuck off I’m coding” on the back across the shoulders. If anyone interrupted him he’d pack up for the day and go home.

                                                                                                  • Whale_Visual@sh.itjust.works
                                                                                                    10 months

                                                                                                    11 years ago there was an article in Russian LiveJournal, talking about the same. It compares programmer’s work with falling asleep and about how hard it is to get back to that “sleep-like” state if you’re interrupted.

                                                                                                    • cabron_offsets@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
                                                                                                      10 months

                                                                                                      Part of the reason I strongly prefer to wfh.

                                                                                                        • skribe@piefed.auEnglish
                                                                                                          10 months

                                                                                                          WFH is great, if you live alone. Not so much if you have family (especially kids) or a particularly manja kitty 🤣.

                                                                                                        • friend_of_satan@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                          10 months

                                                                                                          https://www.paulgraham.com/makersschedule.html

                                                                                                          Guard your “maker” time slots.

                                                                                                            • onlinepersona@programming.dev
                                                                                                              10 months

                                                                                                              Doesn’t matter how many times you say this to managers who aren’t technical or haven’t worked as a code grunt, they won’t understand. Most of them are devoid of empathy and understanding, and cannot conceptualize a position other than their own, which also makes them bad managers.

                                                                                                              Anti Commercial-AI license

                                                                                                              • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                                                10 months

                                                                                                                What is the time code for micromanaging my calendar to fend off pointless meetings?

                                                                                                                • onlinepersona@programming.dev
                                                                                                                  10 months

                                                                                                                  Doesnt matter how many times you say this to managers who aren’t technical or haven’t worked as a code grunt, they won’t understand. Most of them are devoid of empathy and understanding, and cannot conceptualize a position other than their own, which also makes them bad managers.

                                                                                                                  Anti Commercial-AI license

                                                                                                                • PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.socialEnglish
                                                                                                                  10 months

                                                                                                                  What kind of barbaric inhumane researchers tested this

                                                                                                                    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
                                                                                                                      10 months

                                                                                                                      They wrote about it, so I’m assuming ones in stab-proof vests.

                                                                                                                    • Spykee@lemmings.world
                                                                                                                      10 months

                                                                                                                      This is common sense.
                                                                                                                      If you see me in that middle of a productive task like sleeping, munching on cheese, drinking bourbon from the bottle or manhandling my Johnson, please refrain from acting on your urge to show me the right path.
                                                                                                                      I know that path, that’s why I’m not on it.

                                                                                                                        • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                                                          10 months

                                                                                                                          Normalize office masterbation.

                                                                                                                        • rozodru@lemmy.world
                                                                                                                          10 months

                                                                                                                          best decision I ever made years and years ago was to stop being a regular employee and instead do freelance/consulting work. No more interruptions. Emails can be ignored when need be, same with calls and texts, I don’t use whatsapp or any of that. My Jira is PURELY for bug tracking and if anyone that has been invited into it goes off rails on it for something OTHER than bug tracking they get removed.

                                                                                                                          If I go into an office I leave whenever I want. If someone starts bothering me I pack up and go.

                                                                                                                            • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                                                                                              10 months

                                                                                                                              Jira almost seems like overkill if all it’s for is bug tracking. Though I’m guessing all your clients are just used to it, so let them have their comfort zone?

                                                                                                                              I hate Jira so much. It’s designed to do everything for everyone, and that makes it a big, wet, hairy dog.

                                                                                                                                • rozodru@lemmy.world
                                                                                                                                  10 months

                                                                                                                                  yup, majority of clients use so just makes things easier on them. Dont’ get me wrong I hate it too but they like it so whatever, I adapt.

                                                                                                                                • locuester@lemmy.zip
                                                                                                                                  English
                                                                                                                                  10 months

                                                                                                                                  U freelance, and use jira? What kinds of monster are you?!

                                                                                                                                    • rozodru@lemmy.world
                                                                                                                                      10 months

                                                                                                                                      majority of my clients use it, just makes them feel better.

                                                                                                                                  • somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.comdeleted by creator
                                                                                                                                    10 months

                                                                                                                                    No shit!

                                                                                                                                    • Goun@lemmy.ml
                                                                                                                                      10 months

                                                                                                                                      My gf loves to pass by and say “ohh soo focused…”

                                                                                                                                        • deaf_fish@midwest.social
                                                                                                                                          10 months

                                                                                                                                          That’s the problem with having a partner. They just think you’re so cute and hot. And you think they’re cute and hot. It all gets very distracting.

                                                                                                                                            • Xerxos@lemmy.ml
                                                                                                                                              10 months

                                                                                                                                              Ah, I simply avoid that problem by being neither cute nor hot - and therefore single.

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